Developing a thick skin

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beancounter said:
So, because he's white and "privedged", he's not entitled his opinion, or his opinion is wrong?
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Mr. Statton is privileged because he's white. He's also privileged because he's male, and because he's (probably) straight, and because he's (probably) well-off. He's certainly entitled to his opinion. But when you have as much privilege as Mr. Statton does, it's real easy to lecture people on how not to be offended.

beancounter said:
I beleive your reponse is a tactic used to hush debate.
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It isn't, but if you think it is, you may need to develop some thicker skin.
 
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I really hate the term "harden up" as it brings to mind being hurt and then developing a whole lot of scar tissue and then becoming just one big scar and having the world bumping up against all the scarring again and one day the world ruptures the scar and it becomes a wound again. For that reason I really find the term "Harden up" "Pull yourself up by your bootstraps" really illogical. Kind of reminds me of the world my parents grew up in, and I definitely see what that did to them.
 
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beancounter said:
So, because he's white and "privileged", he's not entitled his opinion, or his opinion is wrong?

I beleive your reponse is a tactic used to hush debate. similar to the PC crowd labeling someone because they don't like what he says. trying to shame people into being quiet for fear of being labeled.
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Wouldn't it be funny if Jeremy Stratton turned out to be gay, or used to be a woman before he got sex reassignment surgery?

I guess all it shows is how desperate some people are to characterize a person in a negative and unfair way just so they can dismiss what they have to say because they feel judged by it.
 
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beancounter said:
So, because he's white and "privileged", he's not entitled his opinion, or his opinion is wrong?

I beleive your reponse is a tactic used to hush debate. similar to the PC crowd labeling someone because they don't like what he says. trying to shame people into being quiet for fear of being labeled.
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Thats rich.
 
And I do think there is something that has not been observed here. The fact is we are a group of vegetarians and vegans. On average we tend to be extraordinarily sensitive. Most of the less sensitive, "tougher" folk are happily eating their omni food and blending in to the population. Stoic types will always be a minority in vegetarian populations, we tend to live our lives feelings first as a rule. The real question should be how we can get along with our diversity of opinion.
 
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Freesia said:
And I do think there is something that has not been observed here. The fact is we are a group of vegetarians and vegans. On average we tend to be extraordinarily sensitive. Most of the less sensitive, "tougher" folk are happily eating their omni food and blending in to the population. Stoic types will always be a minority in vegetarian populations, we tend to live our lives feelings first as a rule. The real question should be how we can get along with our diversity of opinion.
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You make a very good point. I once had a meltdown in a museum cafeteria because they didn't have anything vegan. My sister (who is pescetarian) was saying "what's the big deal?" I don't think she understood. :fp:
 
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Pickle Juice said:
Wouldn't it be funny if Jeremy Stratton turned out to be gay, or used to be a woman before he got sex reassignment surgery?
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He's married to a woman (or a dude named Amanda) and he has six children, four of whom were not adopted. Yes, it's possible that Mr. Statton is gay or used to be a woman, but probably not.
 
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You make a very good point. I once had a meltdown in a museum cafeteria because they didn't have anything vegan. My sister (who is pescetarian) was saying "what's the big deal?" I don't think she understood. :fp:
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I know that feeling, I have had similar meltdowns at restaurants. Once I had one because there was only chickpeas and lettuce leaves "But I want a hot meal *grump* " .
 
Freesia said:
And I do think there is something that has not been observed here. The fact is we are a group of vegetarians and vegans. On average we tend to be extraordinarily sensitive. Most of the less sensitive, "tougher" folk are happily eating their omni food and blending in to the population. Stoic types will always be a minority in vegetarian populations, we tend to live our lives feelings first as a rule. The real question should be how we can get along with our diversity of opinion.
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I think that is a matter of how long one has been vegetarian or vegan. If you take enough abuse, you either learn how to cope with it or you give in. If you are the slightest bit sensitive, becoming tough is a survival skill.

But what perplexes me is all the people who have been deliberately offensive to others, who are now claiming sensitivity. Truly sensitive folk don't make the kinds of sarcastic, critical remarks I'm seeing in this thread and around the forum. I don't mean you Freesia. I do think what you say makes sense.
 
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Spang said:
He's married to a woman (or a dude named Amanda) and he has six children, four of whom were not adopted. Yes, it's possible that Mr. Statton is gay or used to be a woman, but probably not.
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That doesn't invalidate my observation about the motivations of people who like to try to dismiss opinions they can't effectively argue against.
 
Spang said:
Mr. Statton is privileged because he's white. He's also privileged because he's male, and because he's (probably) straight, and because he's (probably) well-off. He's certainly entitled to his opinion. But when you have as much privilege as Mr. Statton does, it's real easy to lecture people on how not to be offended.


It isn't, but if you think it is, you may need to develop some thicker skin.
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But the point is, I'm not offended by what you said.... :fp:
 
beancounter said:
I never said that how someone feels is or isn't important.
All I'm saying is that people can make a conscious choice how they feel/react to what someone else is saying.
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IDK, that kind of sounds like we are robots who just have to press a couple of commands, and presto: feelings and ideas are separated! And we can now communicate like machines.
 
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Pickle Juice said:
I guess all it shows is how desperate some people are to characterize a person in a negative and unfair way just so they can dismiss what they have to say because they feel judged by it.
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That doesn't invalidate my observation about the motivations of people who like to try to dismiss opinions they can't effectively argue against.
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I wish I was as clear and concise as PJ.
 
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ledboots said:
I am not certain that people are claiming that they are personally sensitive, but are claiming that people such as that physician blogger should not judge others for feeling upset by things they encounter.
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I guess I don't read that as a judgment, but as a way to overcome a tendency that may be making a person unhappy. I don't think there is anything anyone can really do to control their feelings. I think it is unhealthy to even try. But there are a lot of ways to change your perception of what is inspiring those feelings, and I think nothing but good can come from finding out that the person you thought was deliberately trying to insult wasn't doing that at all, you just misunderstood what they were saying, made an incorrect assumption about their motivation, or they themselves are not as good as they think they are at saying what they really mean.
 
beancounter said:
I never said to shut off all feelings. But it is possible for someone to control/regulate how they react to things.
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Yeah, i dont think that feelings can be controlled or regulated, they are wild and free, like ponies. They can only be expressed in better ways.
 
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