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Lou
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I liked some of the comments.
@rw2380
22 hours agoLet us not ignore these basic facts about the perpetrator: He was not black; he was not Hispanic; he was not Muslim; he was not gay or trans; he wasn't an illegal alien; he wasn't Haitian, he wasn't an atheist, he wasn't Jewish, the list of people who's lives Republicans threaten is particularly endless. He wasn't even a Democrat. He was a white, male Republican US citizen - with an assault rifle... Just like the last guy...
@mnirwin5112
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One person suggested that a Democrat should stand up in Congress and propose a "Protect Donald Trump Gun Control bill" and watch the GOP/MAGA folks turn themselves into pretzels trying to figure out how to respond.
Lou
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**** is getting real.
Got my Official Voter Information Guide in the mail today.
Got my Official Voter Information Guide in the mail today.
Lou
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By 2012, political scientists Thomas Mann and Norm Ornstein warned that the Republican Party had “become an insurgent outlier in American politics. It is ideologically extreme; scornful of compromise; unmoved by conventional understanding of facts, evidence and science; and dismissive of the legitimacy of its political opposition.”
Pretty much all of the smaller towns are Republican in CT, but the bigger cities make CT blue most of the time, though the state has had Republican governors over the years.For every Harris/walz sign there are five Trump signs. CT is supposed to be a blue state but you'd never know it from where I live.
To make myself feel better I tell myself that Harris/walz people just aren't as in your face about who they support.
One observation I consider interesting … the amount of right-wing stuff I have been getting exposed to on « X » (formerly known as « Twitter ») recently is off the charts.
It was never lost on me that the « general » population on « X » was not very liberal, but when I open it now, I see 10 posts from people I or the people I follow have never interacted with, so I can only assume some malevolent algorithm keeps pushing those posts to everybody. Other than that, there’s lots of advertisements for scams/fake products.
To me, it looks very much as if « X » was bigly using its **** right now, but I don’t know how it would look to an easily impressionable American voter….
It was never lost on me that the « general » population on « X » was not very liberal, but when I open it now, I see 10 posts from people I or the people I follow have never interacted with, so I can only assume some malevolent algorithm keeps pushing those posts to everybody. Other than that, there’s lots of advertisements for scams/fake products.
To me, it looks very much as if « X » was bigly using its **** right now, but I don’t know how it would look to an easily impressionable American voter….
I saw five new signs yesterday!!For every Harris/walz sign there are five Trump signs. CT is supposed to be a blue state but you'd never know it from where I live.
To make myself feel better I tell myself that Harris/walz people just aren't as in your face about who they support.
OP
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There's a vice presidential debate scheduled for 1. October on CBS News. How do you think this will play out?
Is Vance the more energetic candidate of the two, and will he somehow be able to present Trump's policies and talking points as something more reasonable-sounding? Or will his radical side reveal itself as he blurts out awful things that will be off-turning to even Trump-leaning voters?
Is Walz up for the job? He almost seems like too decent a man to take on a slime-ball like Vance, but he's had some great talking points, including the framing of Trump's policies as "weird". So maybe? Or maybe Vance will just shoot himself in the foot, so Walz doesn't have to do much?
(I think Vance is a slime-ball based on his initial never-Trump stance which somehow morphed into licking Trumps boots to get his endorsement for the Senate seat and then more boot-licking to get the VP nomination, and along the way he seems to have betrayed the demographic he originally championed. But what do I know.)
Is Vance the more energetic candidate of the two, and will he somehow be able to present Trump's policies and talking points as something more reasonable-sounding? Or will his radical side reveal itself as he blurts out awful things that will be off-turning to even Trump-leaning voters?
Is Walz up for the job? He almost seems like too decent a man to take on a slime-ball like Vance, but he's had some great talking points, including the framing of Trump's policies as "weird". So maybe? Or maybe Vance will just shoot himself in the foot, so Walz doesn't have to do much?
(I think Vance is a slime-ball based on his initial never-Trump stance which somehow morphed into licking Trumps boots to get his endorsement for the Senate seat and then more boot-licking to get the VP nomination, and along the way he seems to have betrayed the demographic he originally championed. But what do I know.)
Lou
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Two comments to that
yes, you are not the first or only person with that concern. The un-moderated, unfiltered un-fact checked is a major concern. Many congressional hearings have been on the subject. other than much has been done here in America but we have made some progress. I've read that some of the Scandinavian countries are really doing a good job and some of their leaders have come here to help us.
From what I hear young people are moving away from X and getting more into TikTok and Instagram - but those are also very unreliable news sources. Unfortunately young people don't trust mainstream media.
My second comment, you might want to read as if I had done it in all caps. WTF are you doing on X?! Maybe 10 years ago it was a decent platform. but it is totally awful. And besides, Elon Musk owns it. I'm not sure if he makes any money on it but there is no way I'm supporting anything by him.
Oh sure you might have an "investment" with twitter and have your twitter friends and followers but surely you should have gotten out before.
How Americans Get News on TikTok, X, Facebook and Instagram
X is still more of a news destination than these other platforms, but the vast majority of users on all four see news-related content.
www.pewresearch.org
Lou
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No
probably. I suppose it all could be an act to appeal to a certain type of voter but I think he will just continue on the path he has created,
Yes
I agree.
Lou
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I haven't seem many signs for either candidate. I have been seeing some support being shown for the district and congressional guys, whose names I sometimes don't recognize. Those I more often just pay attention to the primaries. Once they are on the ticket I just vote Blue straight down.For every Harris/walz sign there are five Trump signs. CT is supposed to be a blue state but you'd never know it from where I live.
To make myself feel better I tell myself that Harris/walz people just aren't as in your face about who they support.
there is a different kind of lawn sign going on in Nebraska. They just put up a sign with a blue dot.
Lou
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Just reported that Mark Robinson might cost Trump North Carolina, and the election.
Not sure if I find this ironic or poetic justice or well... as you sow....
Not sure if I find this ironic or poetic justice or well... as you sow....
On Meet the Press Vance was questioned on whether rump should retract his support for robinson.
“I don’t not believe him, I don’t believe him — I just think that you have to let these things sometimes play out in the court of public opinion,” Vance said. “He’s going to make whatever arguments he wants to make. I’m sure the news media and others are going to investigate these comments further.”
Walz is going to mop the floor with that wimp. It's hard to criticize your opponent as flip flopping when you've done it as much as vance.
The White House has quit 'X' as have others, and now are on "Threads". Threads has a long road ahead of them to make the success of Twitter
. I wish them luck!
OP
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I just learnt the other day that the 2024 presidential/senate/house elections are to be held on 5. November.
Over here in the UK that particular date commemorates a particularly perilous date in history for houses of government ...
Over here in the UK that particular date commemorates a particularly perilous date in history for houses of government ...
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Lou
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gunpowder plot?I just learnt the other day that the 2024 presidential/senate/house elections are to be held on 5. November.
Over here in the UK that particular date commemorates a particularly perilous date in history for houses of government ...
What Happened on November 5 | HISTORY
Discover what happened on November 5 with HISTORY’s summaries of major events, anniversaries, famous births and notable deaths.
www.history.com
OP
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Precisely. But let's hope that's just an unfortunate coincidence!gunpowder plot?
What Happened on November 5 | HISTORY
Discover what happened on November 5 with HISTORY’s summaries of major events, anniversaries, famous births and notable deaths.
Speaking of houses of government, AFAICT even if the Dems manage to win the White House, the Trump party is likely to win those two other houses of government - the Senate and the House.
Lou
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well, according to many news services its going to be very close. The senate could be 51 / 49 but not sure which way. But yeah, most pollsters are favoring the GOP. If Montana is the 51st GOP seat in the senate we in Californian are going to freak. Maybe we will just move to Montana. I wonder if we can float a bond and just buy all the property and then evict them.
The house should also be close but since the GOP representatives are basically writing the script for them not worthy of their positions.... we can just call it "all the things I haven't done"
Meanwhile the DNC and their PACs are pouring money into districts that are purple or pink.
Some very good news from Nebraska.
stateline.org
Nebraska state senator deflates GOP hopes for winner-take-all electoral votes • Stateline
The Republican push to change how Nebraska awards its Electoral College votes and boost former President Donald Trump ran into political reality Monday as a key lawmaker, GOP state Sen. Mike McDonnell, announced he won’t support the change.
stateline.org
Lou
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I think they had already missed the deadline anyway.Some very good news from Nebraska.
Nebraska state senator deflates GOP hopes for winner-take-all electoral votes • Stateline
The Republican push to change how Nebraska awards its Electoral College votes and boost former President Donald Trump ran into political reality Monday as a key lawmaker, GOP state Sen. Mike McDonnell, announced he won’t support the change.
